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Ding dong.. Can I see your permit?

By Kevin Buckley
Thursday, Sep 25 2008, 06:53 AM

Public Service Announcement .. Did you know Whitefish Bay has an ordinance that requires nearly all door-to-door solicitors to have a permit?

Ordinance 15.07 (read here) generally requires all "Merchants" selling goods, or "Solicitors" asking for donations of money or items, to apply for a permit at Village Hall. 

This permit must be displayed on a "conspicuous place" on the person, and must be presented upon the demand of any potential "customer."  (That's you.)

Furthermore .. each solicitor needs one.  So if, for example, the Victory Church, deposits a carload of guys to go around knocking on doors asking for donations, EACH of them need a permit.  The permits are not transferable.

There are two notable EXCEPTIONS:

  1. No permit is needed if the solicitor is engaged solely in political or religious speech.   (But if they are asking for donations, they WILL need a permit.  Often you'll hear them initially say "we're not asking for money .. but if you'd like to subscribe, blah blah blah."  .. yeah, get a permit.)

  2. No permit is necessary for RESIDENT children under 21 going door-to-door for a charitable or non-profit entity.  e.g. Whitefish Bay children can sell Girl Scout Cookies or raise money for their band trip without a permit.  But a Shorewood kid, cannot without a permit.  Nor can a Milwaukee resident ask for church donations without a permit.

So .. anyone like to bet that most of the dudes who ring your door need a permit, yet don't have one?

Additionally .. ringing the doorbell to see if someone is home is also a method bad guys use to discover unoccupied homes.

Next time an irritating solicitor is outside your door asking for money, ask to see their permit.   If they don't have one, call the Whitefish Bay Police (962-4619), who would be happy to inform them of the law.  

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wfbdoglover   

So if someone from "Victory Church" is a kid and I ask for their permit (which I have) and they say I don't need one because I am a kid - they really do?

I wish that ordinance would have a time limit.  I hate it when they come to the door at 9:00 p.m.  They should be allow until dusk - period - end of story.

September 25, 2008 4:14 PM

Kevin Buckley   

The Victory Church "kids" do need a permit because (most likely) they are NOT residents of WFB.  If they are, then, no, they wouldn't need a permit.  99.999% chance they are not.

Also .. there is a time limit.  9am-7pm or 1 hour after sunset:

Sec (c)  (may only) Engage in door-to-door selling of goods, wares, merchandise, services, or soliciting other than between the hours of 9:00 A.M. to the earlier of either 7:00 P.M. or one hour after sunset.

September 25, 2008 4:22 PM

wfbdoglover   

GREAT thank you so much for the information.  

September 25, 2008 4:57 PM

wfbdoglover   

SO I called dispatch tonight because some guy came about 7:15 with no permit and way after sundown.  They weren't aware of this ordinance.

Maybe you could let your friend the police chief know to let his guys know.  Another one they should know about it, you can not have an unregistered vehicle on your property.  When I called, because my little neighbor friend had someone with that type of vehicle visiting them, the  dispatcher didn't know that was breaking the law either.

October 23, 2008 8:04 PM

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About Kevin Buckley

Kevin Buckley of Whitefish Bay is a native Minnesotan who moved to Wisconsin 20 years ago to attend Marquette University. He is a recovering accountant, now working in the technology field as a webmaster for a company in New Berlin.

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